Wednesday 23rd November
I rise at dawn to fly to Delhi where I link up with Steve Connor, Director of the Consortium and Sarah Joshi, our admissions tutor. I have worked with Steve for over a decade and I both like and admire him. We are not however cut from the same cloth. Very early in our relationahip we flew to Zurich to explore possible links with a cultural studies programme there. After a morning of inexpressible tedium in which the most pedantic and uninspiring notions of cultural studies were explored at inordinate length, we were released and could contemplate lunch and a lazy afternoon. Zurich has some reasonable restaurants and also an inexhaustible supply of Fendant, James Joyce’s favourite wine. I began running through some of the options we could consider when Steve said “ Actually I never eat lunch and I’m going to run a half marathon now”.
I had hoped that we would stay at Maidens, the colonial palace that housed Flavia and me at the end of September but Steve and Sarah had opted for a more generic modern hotel that could have been in any world capital. Rather rudely I voiced my discontent with this choice until Sarah whispered to me that Steve had chosen it for its outstanding gym. Steve works harder as a writer, teacher and administrator than any academic I know so if what he requires to keep him going is a gym, who am I to argue.
Our first gig was at Delhi University where we were been hosted by the sexual politics group, two of whose leading lights are Akshi and Amartya, pupils of Ashley Tallis. They had interviewed me for their journal on my previous visit. The interview had mainly been about Screen in the seventies, and their questions had really made me think back on that period. Indeed in political terms my trip to India was time travel. The theoretical and political problems of the seventies continue to provide much of the conscious intellectual context of cultural and political reflection in India. In the developed Anglophone world that context persists but only as the forgotten and the unmentionable. One of the reasons I have felt so intellectually revived in India is that the people I talk to in film and cultural studies have the same understanding as me of the history of the last 40 years – something that I rarely find in England or the US.
Steve and I give an account of how the Consortium had come out of the impasses of film and cultural studies in the eighties and in particular with a huge dissatisfaction with how “Theory” had become institutionalized in the Anglo-Saxon academy. The discussion is lively and informed and is brilliantly chaired by Akshi, who has one of the most mellifluous voices that I have ever had the pleasure to hear. Afterwards, I suggest a bar. As always in India this starts off a complicated discussion. All Indians assure me that the country has thousands of bars but when it come to the moment where one needs a bar very urgently, there never seems to be one that near. Eventually a destination is agreed and we set off.
En route I learn that Akshi is from Rajasthan. Rajasthan had occasioned a certain amount of disagreement between Flavia and me. Rajasthan specializes in castles and at some moments you might be forgiven for thinking that Flavia felt that the only purpose in coming to India is to visit castles. I pointed out to her that I had lived for 62 years in England without going to see one castle and that I didn’t feel that I had lived an unfulfilled life. A compromise was reached when I suggested that we avoid touring every palace in Rajasthan and that we just go to Jodhpur. I was keen to see Jodhpur because I had known the maharajah very slightly when we were both undergraduates. He had been an amiable fellow and I particularly remember him making Bloody Marys by the jug “because it saves so much time”. Reports over the decades from mutual friends had stressed how seriously he took his regal duties and I was keen to see the results of his labours. Flavia booked us into his summer palace, indeed into what had been the maharajah’s own bedroom. The palace was built beside a huge tank and surrounded by gardens that could have been airlifted straight from a very grand English country house. If pre-colonial period palaces bear no relation to anything you’d bump into in the English countryside, from the late nineteenth century on, the Indians modeled their stately homes on British example – with the proviso that they amplified the size very considerably.
The summer palace had extraordinarily helpful and friendly staff, hampered slightly by the fact that they spoke no English and seemed to have only the haziest of ideas about how a hotel functioned. When I inquired about this in the town I was told that all the staff were the traditional palace retainers. This spoke well of the Maharajah’s loyalty but didn’t quite explain why he hadn’t given them a crash course in hotel management.
The massive fort, which had been the seat of his family’s power, was a great advertisement for his efforts. Our last visit to a similar building had been Fatehpur Sikri in Uttar Pradesh. This astonishing monument to Moghul dominance sits in a sea of filth and beggars and is approached by roads in the last stage of disrepair. Once there you are so assaulted by totally ignorant guides that it is impossible to contemplate Akbar’s extraordinary architecture. Jodhpur’s Mehrangar fort is a very different experience. Although its foundations were laid before Moghul times its main construction dates from the same time as Fatephur Sikri. But the approach roads are well tended and there is ample parking. The guides, if full of the usual inaccurate political propaganda, (“ caste is really the wrong word, they are communities of people who choose to live together”) have real knowledge of the local history and are allocated through a well organized system. The fort itself, which towers over the town, is hugely impressive. Like Fatephur Sikri, its pre-colonial construction means it owes nothing to the British country house and everything to fundamental military concerns – even the gates have huge spikes to counter the threat of elephants. The fort is built into a huge hill that towers over the town and as you ascend you come across displays of weapons, furniture and clothes all well displayed and documented. By and large, like the summer palace, the fort speaks well of the Maharajah’s efforts to bring Jodhpur into the modern age. However, it might be said even someone as politically incorrect as myself was slightly nauseated by the folklorique entertainments which greeted you at each turning of the stair. On the first level a solitary musician played the most beautiful music but at the second level traditional dancing wrenched from its context seemed forced and unhappy. But the piece de resistance came further up where tribals (actually actors pretending to be tribals) got up as though they were auditioning for one of Buffalo Bill Wild West tours put on performances as ‘savages” that one would have thought had disappeared with the nineteenth century.
However, if one forgave these monuments to cultural and ethic insensitivity, there was no doubt that the Maharajah had spent time and effort in making the transition from feudal overlord to tourist proprietor with real skill. A fact that seemed widely appreciated. Both prompted and unprompted the inhabitants of Jodhpur thought a great deal of the latest head of their traditional ruling family. They particularly appreciated that he didn’t speak Hindi and spent most of his time in the palace that his father had built which looks over the city facing the old fort. On our last morning in the Summer Palace, I noted a portrait of the Maharajah with his family. I clearly recognised my old acquaintance although the slim young man I had known 40 years ago had become slightly swollen. But then which of us hasn’t. I told our waiter that I had known the Maharajah at university where we called him Bup-ji. The waiter indicated that this was what all his subjects in Jodhpur called him. “What does it mean?”, I asked. “God’ came the reply.
This exchange was one of my favourite stories of our Indian travels but it did not survive telling it to Akshi. “Actually”, she said in her precise and melodious voice. “ Bup-ji means father”. Thus a good yarn is assassinated by scholarly accuracy. However, Akshi redeemed herself by saying that she would show Flavia and I round Jaipur, the capital of Rajasthan when we next vested India. So desperate am I to return that I will even visit another castle.
Interview with Akshi Singh and Amartya for Gender Studies Journal, Delhi University
What do you think are the possibilities and the limitations of critical theory for gender politics?
First of all, I have very little sense of what critical theory is now – my own kind of searing engagement with that work was forty years ago. At the time, it went together with, and for me, was the same as engaging with left politics, with the women’s movement at the end of the 60s and, very importantly, gay liberation. For a moment, which didn’t last much beyond the mid-seventies, it seemed that a crucial part of that struggle was a bringing together of Marxism and psychoanalysis (both then outside the university) with linguistics (very much within it). There was a belief that we could find the key to all the ideologies. Freud, Marx and Saussure would line up with sex and drugs and rock’n roll in the revolution which would be perpetual carnival. I wouldn’t want to dismiss that Utopian dream entirely but it signally failed to achieve its goals. To give a concrete example: in the early seventies, many people I knew (including myself) thought that one would be able to find a definition of patriarchy which would explain not only economic questions, but also give an account of sexual repression etc. By around 1975, it seemed quite clear to me that patriarchy, could be used as a general term of oppression, but it was useless as a theoretical term, attempting to produce correlations where they didn’t exist. I remember Ian McFeteridge saying to me in the early seventies that homophobia was so persistent in so many varied social formations that it was impossible to analyse it as intrinsically linked to capitalism. And many years later Derek Jarman was to say to me that he very quickly became disillusioned by the attempt to link the demands of gay liberation to other political struggles which while they may have been justified but didn’t have anything to do with the specific struggles of gay liberation. And then much more slowly came the realization that the belief that the breaking of sexual taboos was in itself politically revolutionary was incredibly naïve. In the eighties capitalism eagerly exploited the new forms of sexual behaviour, gay and straight
So that kind of theoretical utopia as it were vanished, or at least vanished for me. Instead what happened was an academicization of theory, and an academicisation of feminism and gay liberation. And I became very tired of the over academicization of sexual politics in the 80s. There was a great moment in the late eighties when these guys turned up in New York and said ‘we’re here, we’re queer, get used to it!’ I thought it was a great slogan, and about actually recognizing how things are. But within less than two years that had been airlifted into a kind of politically correct academic discourse. It still seems obvious to me that you can never know enough about either history or biology, but on the other hand, critical theory does not seem interested in either. And the hope that linguistics would provide the key now seems largely misplaced. But I don’t feel in a very good position to answer your question because I have no active involvement in sexual politics in either England or the States still less any connection to the situation in India.
There was a time when sexual politics seemed very close to my life and to my own experience but it has to be said that while homophobia and misogyny continue to flourish, overt sexual discrimination has all but vanished from my own life and work. If I compare myself as a schoolboy of 16 in 1965 when homosexual acts were still illegal and punishable by imprisonment and my youngest son at 16 in 2003 some of whose classmates had come out as gay then there really has been progress. If hatred of sexual difference is still a very important factor in the formation of all the fundamentalisms, I’m not sure that I’d look to critical theory to provide the analysis of that. I must stress that in talking about these things I’m talking from a European and American context. I can see that the situation is very different here in India with many of these primary battles still in process.
You mentioned this time in the seventies where you feel that your academic practice is linked very deeply to your political practice – do you think that academics and the university space have changed?
Of course, they’ve changed – the question is what attitude should you take to those changes .You could become sentimentally nostalgic about the good old days and wish that nothing had changed or you could be a little bit more hard- headed and say that it was a moment and a moment based on a mistake. Read Laura Mulvey’s famous article, which I have just done for the first time in forty years, and the article assumes, as did the whole of the Screen board at that time, that we were going to produce theories that are going to change fundamentally the way entertainment was enjoyed. Well you have to say that such a belief is ludicrous. We did think that for a bit and I don’t think it was entirely a bad thing to think but you can’t work out what should be retained until you recognise how ludicrous the assumption was. And when I look now and then at critical theory it still seems to pose as a force that’s going to change the world but now entirely from within the university where it becomes not simply ludicrous but entirely unhinged from reality. And that’s what fosters an attitude where you have a whole generation of young women students who counter identify as feminist because of what has been preached to them in the classroom.
So the seventies was one moment and now we are in another, characterized for me by the fact that both Third International and social democratic versions of politics have collapsed. I see very little sign of that being engaged with in the university and I have a very strong sense that there is nothing outside the university with which to think against academic orthodoxy. When I was a student there were huge areas outside the university: Marxism (Lukacs had just been translated when I went up to university, Benjamin was translated when I was a graduate student), psychoanalysis, film. Now everything seems inside. So I think that rather than asking what should the relationship between politics and theory be, you should ask “ Where are we now, and how on earth can academic work contribute to a re-theorisation of the political. And, from the other side, what from my direct daily experience of oppression do I need to know and think about?” This is not a blueprint but it is a suggestion that we are at a moment when we need to go back to a certain kind of zero. The thing that most obsesses me at the moment – seventy percent of Israeli people want the recognition of Palestinian statehood, more than seventy percent of the American people want higher taxes for the rich and yet somehow we’re in a political universe where that majority opinion cannot be translated into political action at all. I guess that it has got something to do with the twenty four hour news cycle in particular, and television in general but then we need to understand this better – not as an academic exercise but in order to take effective action. Occupy Wall Street looks like a step in the right direction.
When you were in college, how did a community begin to form of people who wanted to work together in academics and share a politics?
For me it was the moment that I came back to England from a year studying as a graduate student in France and Sam Rhodie and Peter Wollen took me out to lunch and asked me to join the Screen editorial board. If I look back to that lunch it was the intersection of two histories. The first was the moment of cinephilia, the moment of the reception of Cahiers du cinema and the other was the moment of the New Left Review. Again both are outside the academy. But cinephilia overlaps with a world of secondary school teaching , particularly in London, and The New Left Review overlaps with a world of well heeled bohemia. The two key references are in the first case an institution, the British Film Institute and in the second a movement, which you could call the New Left and for which the key individual was Perry Anderson. Anderson was key both in intellectual terms, his essay “Components of a National Culture” sketched out a whole intellectual project but also in personal terms in that he was able to underwrite the New Left Review. These two intersecting worlds also existed at the very end of English bohemia with people who scraped a living from reviewing, translating etc. I’d think in this context of Ben Brewster who was absolutely vital to Screen’s achievement. And that was the world of Screen in the early seventies and a world that vanished. I think I’m right in saying that when I joined the Screen board no one had a job teaching film in the university (partly because such jobs didn’t exist) and when I left in 1979 every member of the board was teaching film in higher education. This world was not the only one for me – at one edge it merged into the world of the university, in my case Cambridge, and at the other it merged into the world of London letters – journalism, publishing etc.
Yes – partly why we’re asking is because we’re located in the University…
But you see both Screen and the New Left Review were completely outside the University – New Left Review partly because Anderson underwrote it but partly because it had a genuine audience outside the university and Screen was funded from outside the University by the British Film Institute, and it too had a genuine audience outside the university. What came from within the university was a new take on the Western intellectual tradition and the explosion of the student movement. If I look at it personally, my first year at university was 1967/68 and it seemed obvious that the most interesting things were happening inside the university. 10 years later (let’s say 78/79) I woke up and suddenly one is aware that historically universities were not where the most interesting things happened and that the late sixties/early seventies looked more of a blip than a beginning. I don’t mean to denigrate the important disciplinary thought that goes on within a university but the crucial moments of social and cultural re-evaluation don’t seem to me to be likely to happen within universities. So to expect the University to be where the most interesting and exciting intellectual developments are happening is itself historically rather bizarre.
Could you tell us more about your work with the London Consortium and how that came about?
It happened because I more or less left the academic world and was producing film at the British Film Institute. A new director came in and he said to me ‘I want you to turn the BFI into a graduate institution’ and I thought that if you saw the institute’s own activities as an academic resource, you really could do something very interesting. We set up a master’s degree and that was very centrally what the institute needed to reproduce itself. It sort of built the students into the functioning of the institution. The other thing that I wanted to do was something much more ambitious which was to recast the humanities with film at the centre. That had been the dream of Screen and had been destroyed by the creation of Film Studies that had set itself up as a specialized discipline. I had two very old friends – Paul Hirst who taught Sociology at Birkbeck and who had produced the most creative work on Marxism in the seventies, and Mark Cousins who directed general studies at the Architectural Association. We were having dinner one night and Mark said he just examined a PhD and said there must be some way of organizing graduate study so that undertaking a PhD wasn’t a complete misery – both for the person writing and for everybody who has to teach and examine it. So we said, “Let’s do it” and very shortly afterwards we recruited Richard Humphreys who headed education at Tate. This was an unusual historical conjuncture- we were senior enough in our organizations to be taken seriously and we were bureaucratically skilled enough to be able present to each of our organizations a project which clearly served our own institution’s ends, if only peripherally, and which was going to cost nothing except its start up costs. The real resources that got it going was our own labour, which was effectively done in our own time. Strangely enough I don’t think we talked much about politics when we set it up because we had talked ourselves to death politically in the seventies. But certainly I would say that the Consortium is a child of the sixties. That its aim – to produce knowledge in a worldly way, addressing audiences outside as well as within the academy – is an aim that comes from the sixties. It was an attempt to do something that would continue what was valuable from that moment. But I think I would also stress how much of the Consortium’s beginnings was chance. Three very old friends in senior positions working within 100 yards of each other in central London. Just before he died Paul Hirst was asked what the secret of the Consortium’s success was, and his answer was friendship. We could only do it because we were very old friends who trusted each other which means we also got annoyed with each other, and fed up with each other and etc. but we didn’t have the kind of problems that you normally have in such collaborations
So it’s been 17 years since the Consortium started?
I can’t remember exactly when we started discussing the Consortium. I became Head of Research, BFI in 1989; we took the first Masters students in 1992. The Consortium took its first students in October 1995.
Is there any work that is being produced that you would like to mention to us?
If you look on the website, it has all the PhDs that have been produced so far. Most recently there’s a thesis on auditory culture in pre Second World War Japan which takes as its starting point the first time that the Japanese heard the emperor’s voice on the radio: the ammouncement of the surrender to the Allies. There’s a thesis on the genesis of modern biology at the end of the eighteemnth century, a history of Turkish cinema and an account of the relations between analytic and Cointinental philosophy. I think that gives some idea of the range of work that is being done. In some ways the doctorates are not as exciting or innovative as the work done in the core courses in the first year. In order to showcase some of that work I’ve just finished editing a book on Godard’s Contempt which is made up of essays done for a course that Laura Mulvey and I taught together. The core courses are aptly named because they are the core of the Consortium. The very first four core courses that we offered give some idea of the project. We took a classic text, Kant’s Critique of Judgment, an interesting concept “whiteness”, a pratical project involving audiences – the planning of the Tate Modern and a controversial modern text: Rushdie’s The Satanic Verses. With the Satanic Verses the intellectual question was as follows: how do you unertake study in a field you know nothing about. If you read the Satanic Verses seriously then you have to engage with both the early history of the Prophet and Indian cinema. How do you do this in a responsible but critical way? If you go on the website and look at the core courses, which change every three or four years , you can see the interest of the Consortium.
Could you tell us something about Critical Quarterly? You are the editor of Critical Quarterly, so could you give a trajectory of your engagement with it?
CQ was set up in the late fifties by two young English lecturers called Brian Cox and A.E. Dyson. They set it up because they were very committed Leavisites but orthodox Leavisitism by then said all modern literature is awful, all modern criticism is awful. So they were completely Leavisite but they thought there was lots of interesting new writing, lots of interesting new criticism. So they set out, and they caught a wave, and they published Sylvia Plath’s first poetry, Ted Hughes, Thom Gunn, and lots of then very young critics like David Lodge etc. Then in the seventies it went into the doldrums. I knew about it, I knew it was one of the best magazines in England but my mind was focussed on other things – politics and language in the seventies, film in the eighties. But CQ asked me to do a double issue on ‘English Today’, and that was easy – I just asked all my friends. And then Brian Cox invited me to lunch, and he said, ‘Look, I’ve sat on 6 professorial appointment committees this year, the Eagletonians are always better than our lot. They are better than us. Your lot have won. It’s over, it’s finished. I’m not interested in criticism anymore; I want to write poetry, will you edit the magazine?’ .So I hesitated a moment, as I was right in the middle of film production, it wasn’t the moment at all for me to edit an academic magazine. On the other hand, I was aware that I was being offered a premier magazine just like that, and it would be a bit foolish to say no. So I said ‘I’ll do it on two conditions. The first is that there is no editorial board’. I said that because in Screen it was like the polit-bureau. Editorial board meetings would go on for hours and hours. They were unbelievably vicious. So I said we’d have contributing editors, but there’s no editorial board. In other the decisions are made by whoever is responsible for a particular issue. And I said ‘The second thing is there will be no business meetings which are not also meals.’ So if we have a meeting of all the editorial contributors, it will be a meal in a restaurant. We may have half an hour of business to get us started. Brian said yes. So I said ‘OK, I’ll do it. And I got all my friends to sign up for it, and we did it on that basis’. It’s basically an English literature magazine, so in every one issue in four, I try to be kind of state- of- the-art “lit-crit”, and in the other three I just do whatever I come across that interests me. Like all other academic magazines, its only readership, its only buyers are libraries. For many years and I tried desperately harad to build iundividual subscriptions to do this. However, in England, every Sunday you now have 2-3 very thick newspapers with culture, politics etc. Saturday, you have another three newspapers that thick. Nobody wants anything more to read. I suddenly realised this one day and since then , which I think is over ten years ago, I’ve tried to run it as what it is: a very good magazine based in the discipline of English which goes into almost all the largest libraries in the world. The other thing that was a big shock to me was that when we went digital I discovered that, for an academic magazine , it has a very big readership ( 50,000 downlaods a year). Before that I’d assumed I was the only one that aread it. And there is a paradox there because if the magazine has a concious strategy it is to refuse specialisation – to look at English literature from Chaucer to graphic novels, to look across all the media, to consider English as global languages and literatures. By my own analysis which is that the academy is becoming ever more specialised, we should be failing but we’re not. I think I edit the magazine with morte care now, partly because I’m aware of that readership and partly because I’m also aware of new developemnts which I’m just not plugged into. I am not quite at the Brian Cox moment but I am also very conscious of the fact that my own reactions are those of someone who is generationally out of it and so I recruited some young people recently. I have a couple of students from London Consortium now helping. Another paradix is that I don’t think anybody reads magazine any more, they just search for articles but I put quite a lot of thought into it as a magazine – down to the format which I love.
Tell us something your experience with cinema, as a producer. You had a long relationship with Derek Jarman. Could you tell us something about how that experience was?
What happened was that I had written all this stuff on film and I really reached a dead end with it. And then I was asked to go and do an interview with Godard, who said ‘Are you doing a proper book on me?’, and I said yes, which was a complete lie , and twenty four hours later I made sure it true. He said the day before that “If you are doing a complete book, you could go through all my archives, you could come on the next film I am going to shoot which is the first proper film I’ve shot in ten years.” And then I went on the shoot for a couple of days and that was really a life changing moment. First of all, it was pretty humiliating, because I did not understand anything at all. And I thought that I don’t want to write from this position, and I decided that once I’d finished that first book I would not write about the cinema untilI’d worked in it. The second thing was the atmosphere of the set, and I thought “this is the world I want to live in”. In the end, I was very lucky, and I was appointed the Head of Production of BFI, and the first thing I had on my plate was Derek Jarman. Derek had this film, Caravaggio, which had been tied up in development for five years because he had signed a contract with the guy who had the idea for the film. The idea wasn’t Derek’s. It was a guy called Nicholas Ward Jackson, who was an art dealer, and Derek had signed a contract with him. Normally when you sign a contract, you say you’ll write a script and the person who pays you owns it for 2 or 3 or 4 years. And if they can’t raise the money, the option runs out. Now Derek wasn’t very legally savvy and there was no such clause in the contract. So this guy owned it. And he had been trying to raise the money for 5 years and he was so obnoxious that nobody would give him the money. So the BFI had decided that they wanted to make it, but I had to actually negotiate the thing away from Nicholas Ward Jackson. It was a great learning curve, as there was this madman Nicholas and he employed the most expensive lawyer in London. I’d go to these meetings with the BFI lawyer and they kicked us around the room. After a week I realised that I understood more about what was happening than the lawyer. So I sacked him and I found another lawyer and in the end the contract was 200 pages thick. But two things came out of that which were good. One, that it was a crash course in the business of film. I really learnt about all the finances of film. And secondly, Derek thought that I was bloody wonderful, because he had wanted to make this film for five years and then I finally did it. And we got on very, very well indeed. And he was very charismatic; people just loved Derek, except for the homophobes. The way he made a film, I remember him saying to me quite early on, he said ‘Look Colin, the finished result doesn’t matter. All that matters is that everybody has a good time while they are making it.’ I don’t think he quite believed that but it really was the case that everybody working on the film felt that they were making the film with Derek. They were involved in this process. Derek was one of the most energising people I’ve ever met. He lived near my office in the BFI, and we used to bump into each other quite often, and however low one was feeling meeting him left one completely re-energised. Caravaggio was the only film of his which I produced but we were always thinking of side projects. There was a book on Edward 2 and then when he got into trouble with Terry Eagleton on Wittgenatein, I got him out by publishing a book which had both Eagleton’s original script and the text from Derek’s film.
The thing about Derek was that he was always having such a good time that he never paid all that much attention to the films until he was dying, and then the last films it all gets taken to another level. Fantastic. I remember when he first screened Wittgenstein, it was his birthday. I took him to Cambridge and I had arranged a screening in Cambridge in the Art Cinema which is where Wittgenstein used to go and spend a lot of his time. I’d invited one of my old tutors who had been a pupil of Wittgenstein and the widow of his doctor in whose house Wittgenstein had died . So I was sitting with these incredibly old people dressed in three piece suits , and I was thinking ‘God what have I done? They’re going to hate this film’. But of course they loved it Then we went off and had lunch, and it was a great time. With Derek I remember endless great times. Before that, after he had done Edward II I’d been rung up by The Independent, and asked to write an obituary, because he was dying. And then he recovered. I said ‘Why don’t we do it in images, and do it before you die?’ .I spent a day interviewing him on film, and then that turned into Derek. I didn’t look at it for ten years. Then on his tenth death anniversary I looked at it. I don’t know whether you’ve seen it, but I think it’s very good. And he was a very brave man. Sebastian was a brave film. A terrible film, but unbelievably brave. And then coming out with AIDS when he did was unbelievably important. He was always very involved with sexual politics. If he was here now he’d probably tell me why I should be more involved with sexual politics.
Supplementary written questions from Ashley Tallis with answers
How and why did you make the transition to Pittsburgh? How do you handle the US?
When I returned from a sabbatical in Paris in 1979 I determined that I would leave academic life and Cambridge to try to make a living in the media after I had got tenure. The Maccabe furor made it difficult to turn down the offer of a Professorship at Strathclyde but when I took the job, Channel 4 had suggested that I could combine work in Glasgow with work for the new Channel. The work in Glasgow was so engrossing that I realised that I would have to move back to London and leave academic life if I was serious about producing films. It was at that moment that Pittsburgh offered me a one –semester appointment and the possibility of doing combining both film and academic life seemed possible. It was and I combined both for 17 years ( until 2002). Since then I have more or less given up active production and I work full time for Pittsburgh as I teach a semester on their Pitt in London programme.
I’m not sure that I do handle the US. The States is very regional and my region is Western Pennsylvania and my city is Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh hasn’t elected any Republican to any office since 1928. It is a city I know and love and in which my youngest son went to school. The university has offered me unstinting support
What are you working on now and what are your current interests?
A history of English literature, a book on Clint Eastwood as an American artist and a short book on modernism and realism. But I will drop all that at the beginning of January to start reading economics
Do you not meet the Screen comrades any more when you are in London?
I see Laura Mulvey and Marx Nash all the time. Ben Brewster who I would love to see more is in Madison. I see Stephen Heath in Cambridge. Peter Wollen very sadly has Alzheimer’s. I see Sam Rhodie from time to time.
Do you not engage with the French any more?
I go to France every two or three months to see old friends particularly Moustapha Safouan and Chris Marker. I go to Cannes every year. But when I see Bernard Henri Levy or Philippe Sollers I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Mainly I just seethe.
Are you still an angry (now old) man or do you think you’ve settled down? Whatever your answer is, why do you think so?
I wasn’t an angry young man. As a teenager I thought a Labour government would usher in a new Jerusalem and then I had more revolutionary dreams in my twenties. Anger didn’t come until a) the stupidity of the nouvelle philosophie in France and b) the stupidity of Christopher Ricks in Cambridge. That anger has grown as I have seen both British television and British universities destroyed in front of my eyes by my own generation. I try not to succumb to this anger but it is difficult particularly when I am in England. I settled down at the rather early age of 25 with the birth of my first child. Since then I have had the luck to enjoy my family and by luck so far to have avoided many of the normal tragedies. But call no man happy until he is dead.